Them that verb phrase

August 12th, 2012
firefly, ling
One grammatical quirk of the 'rural' dialect in Firefly is restrictive relative clauses "them that" as in:
If that's what you think of this life, then you can't think much of them that choose it, can you? -- Kaylee
Or "them as":
Just get us some passengers. Them as can pay. -- Mal
Small crew, them as feel the need to be free - Mal
To see whether this was something English used to do or something Whedon made up, we can look at the N-Gram viewer:
Them that are, Them as are:
Them that can, Them as can:
So "them that/as verb" appears to be something English used to do a lot more of.

People pretty much don't use that construction now, unless they're mimicing Firefly, so how did we lose it? It looks to me like the main change was using "those" in place of "them":

Them who are, Those who are:
Them who can, Those who can:
Them who do, Those who do:
It appears "those who" has always been much more popular (but "those that" is catching up):

Comment via: google plus, facebook, substack

Recent posts on blogs I like:

Avoiding being raped

A comment on a recent blog post asked for advice for a trans woman who kept making dangerous dating and sex choices, because she hadn’t received the female socialization that would have taught her to avoid threatening people and risky situations.

via Thing of Things October 28, 2026

“We should be more ambitious with the software we build”

Since early this year, Michael Malis (of pgrust) has been showing me interesting things he's done and saying [W]e should be more ambitious1 with the software we build There is, understandably, a lot of skepticism about projects like pgrust because there…

via Posts on October 24, 2026

Was the HuggingFace hacking incident scheming?

In July 2026, internal OpenAI agents hacked HuggingFace (HF) in order to figure out how their evaluation grader works. This involved a thousand agents coordinating on an improvised message board to carry out an elaborate sequence of exploits. A later grou…

via Victoria Krakovna October 18, 2026

more     (via openring)