{"items": [{"author": "Vivian", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/654395089872?comment_id=654400089852", "anchor": "fb-654400089852", "service": "fb", "text": "What's the price of washing a dishwasher-ful of dishes by hand? (I think this takes me 15 minutes of running warm water. Some people might be faster than me, or be more skilled at turning the running water on/off 100 times to save some water.)", "timestamp": "1396811462"}, {"author": "George", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/654395089872?comment_id=654401916192", "anchor": "fb-654401916192", "service": "fb", "text": "In general, dishwashers that are fully loaded are much more efficient than hand washing.", "timestamp": "1396812864"}, {"author": "Ben", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/654395089872?comment_id=654407400202", "anchor": "fb-654407400202", "service": "fb", "text": "The rough thing about metered usage products is that humans are horrible about reasoning about time, and regularly discount things incorrectly. The explosion in microtransactions and DLC monetizes this by taking advantage of people feeling better about 3 transactions of 1 good-unit than 1 transaction of 3 good-units.", "timestamp": "1396815163"}, {"author": "Bil", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/654395089872?comment_id=654460299192", "anchor": "fb-654460299192", "service": "fb", "text": "So what you're telling me is that none of these things costs anything. I spend more on coffee at a cafe than I do on all of these things combined. I can completely ignore all these costs and simply enjoy doing the stuff I want to be doing. Cool. (PS: I'd like to see the amortized costs of equipment and repairs.)", "timestamp": "1396844873"}, {"author": "Brad", "source_link": "https://plus.google.com/116032343632043704302", "anchor": "gp-1396869526319", "service": "gp", "text": "What temperature are you assuming for the oven? The reason I ask is that I make most of our own bread, not for cost savings but convenience (we use a no-knead recipe that requires about 7 minutes total effort from start to finish, and the result is as good as what you can find in most of the best French bakeries in our town), but I've been wondering what a loaf of home-baked bread costs compared with store- or bakery-bought bread. Our bread cooks at about 475 Fahrenheit for 50 minutes, in a cast-iron dutch oven. It's easy to figure out the cost of ingredients but I'm not sure about the cost of running the oven at that temperature (which also requires 15 minutes of preheating).", "timestamp": 1396869526}, {"author": "Brad", "source_link": "https://plus.google.com/116032343632043704302", "anchor": "gp-1396870396732", "service": "gp", "text": "While these are all small individual costs, if you add them up over 10, 20, 30 years they start looking like larger avoidable costs. And if you wanted to go beyond your own personal expenses you could add in the social cost of carbon related to greenhouse gas emissions from the fuels burned to produce this energy. Also insignificant per use but over the course of decades it adds up. See\u00a0\nhttp://www.epa.gov/climatechange/EPAactivities/economics/scc.html", "timestamp": 1396870396}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://plus.google.com/103013777355236494008", "anchor": "gp-1396887109496", "service": "gp", "text": "@Brad\n\u00a0\"What temperature are you assuming for the oven?\"\n
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\n350F", "timestamp": 1396887109}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://plus.google.com/103013777355236494008", "anchor": "gp-1396887225382", "service": "gp", "text": "@Brad\n\u00a0\"if you wanted to go beyond your own personal expenses you could add in the social cost of carbon related to greenhouse gas emissions from the fuels burned to produce this energy\"\n
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\nIt would be interesting to do a version of this post with numbers that included full social costs.", "timestamp": 1396887225}]}