{"items": [{"author": "Theresa", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629417934292?comment_id=629418822512", "anchor": "fb-629418822512", "service": "fb", "text": "Call me overly curious .... I had to read that thread. Meat? What's wrong with more beans???? Geesch!", "timestamp": "1380198100"}, {"author": "Fran\u00e7ois-Ren\u00e9", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629417934292?comment_id=629420494162", "anchor": "fb-629420494162", "service": "fb", "text": "I wrote on that topic a few years back: http://fare.livejournal.com/135967.html", "timestamp": "1380199678"}, {"author": "Arthur", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629417934292?comment_id=629420753642", "anchor": "fb-629420753642", "service": "fb", "text": "Well yeah, that's why in Soylent Green they had a full-tilt propaganda machine pushing the suicide booths", "timestamp": "1380199934"}, {"author": "Phillip", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629417934292?comment_id=629423657822", "anchor": "fb-629423657822", "service": "fb", "text": "sounds like a modest proposal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal", "timestamp": "1380202639"}, {"author": "Paul", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629417934292?comment_id=629428168782", "anchor": "fb-629428168782", "service": "fb", "text": "I've heard that most people's flesh would not be able to meet USDA standards due to high levels of chemical exposure from diet, pharmaceutlicals and the environment.", "timestamp": "1380206142"}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629417934292?comment_id=629432495112", "anchor": "fb-629432495112", "service": "fb", "text": "@Arthur: \"full-tilt propaganda machine pushing the suicide booths\"
Even if your propaganda can get half the population to suicide every year, and ignoring the social and economic effects of such depopulation, that only takes us from an equivalent of 0.1 cents-per-day to 6.8 cents-per-day of meat.", "timestamp": "1380209171"}, {"author": "Arthur", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629417934292?comment_id=629433148802", "anchor": "fb-629433148802", "service": "fb", "text": "Well, Soylent Green added the wrinkle of some magic manufacturing process that converts 100% of available human biomass into edible food. (Which probably wouldn't be 100% of a person's total body weight, but would still be likely to be 2 or 3 times the 50 pounds of edible meat you postulate.)
Also, of course, Soylent Green takes place in an apocalyptic setting where a single head of lettuce is worth the equivalent of hundreds of dollars and a single pound of beef worth thousands. I don't think many people are seriously arguing that in our actual modern world eating people would be economically worthwhile.", "timestamp": "1380209617"}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629417934292?comment_id=629433353392", "anchor": "fb-629433353392", "service": "fb", "text": "@Arthur: \" I don't think many people are seriously arguing that in our actual modern world eating people would be economically worthwhile.\"
I agree, but I was just talking to someone who hadn't done the simple calculations to think it through and thought it was worth trying to change our taboos on.", "timestamp": "1380209752"}, {"author": "Paul", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629417934292?comment_id=629438043992", "anchor": "fb-629438043992", "service": "fb", "text": "At best it would be like biodiesel from frying oil; making use of a resouce that is otherwise going to waste, but with only a negligible impact on global supply and demand.", "timestamp": "1380212333"}, {"author": "Maximus", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629417934292?comment_id=629441941182", "anchor": "fb-629441941182", "service": "fb", "text": "Even in the \"suicide booth\" scenario the major advantage would come not from extra nutrition but reduced consumption. If a person lives until 80 instead of committing suicide at 40 they're not particularly likely to put on large amounts of weight but will eat many times their body mass in food in that time. We're apex predators so it's highly inefficient to eat us (same reason why carnivores are not raised for their meat)", "timestamp": "1380213374"}, {"author": "Arthur", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629417934292?comment_id=629444660732", "anchor": "fb-629444660732", "service": "fb", "text": "Well, the Soylent Green scenario is one where we are no longer apex predators because almost everything we eat is Soylent Green.
(Note: Of course it is thermodynamically impossible for us to get our energy from autocannibalism -- the energy is clearly coming from nuclear reactors or solar panels or whatever, and the point of the cannibalism is to speed up the process of recycling biomass with which to store that energy.
A Soylent Green scenario posits that when the demand for food gets above a certain point the ecosystem is no longer an efficient enough means of cycling biomass quickly enough to meet demand, and the ecosystem therefore collapses and is drastically shortcutted through the use of technology, in the form of suicide booths and nuclear-powered Soylent Green factories.)", "timestamp": "1380215470"}, {"author": "Nic", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629417934292?comment_id=629449955122", "anchor": "fb-629449955122", "service": "fb", "text": "I only eat free range humans...", "timestamp": "1380219675"}, {"author": "Amelia", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629417934292?comment_id=629466127712", "anchor": "fb-629466127712", "service": "fb", "text": "oh good I was worried this would catch on.", "timestamp": "1380230261"}, {"author": "Ron", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629417934292?comment_id=629487524832", "anchor": "fb-629487524832", "service": "fb", "text": "I hear it's a modest proposal.", "timestamp": "1380246315"}]}