{"items": [{"author": "Paul", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828342872122", "anchor": "fb-828342872122", "service": "fb", "text": "I'm boggled that you prefer aliased fonts to anti-aliased fonts!", "timestamp": "1480603625"}, {"author": "Josh", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828342872122&reply_comment_id=828343256352", "anchor": "fb-828342872122_828343256352", "service": "fb", "text": "→ I'm with Jeff, the blurriness drives me bonkers.", "timestamp": "1480603923"}, {"author": "Paul", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828342872122&reply_comment_id=828344009842", "anchor": "fb-828342872122_828344009842", "service": "fb", "text": "→ It's not \"blurry\". It's \"sub-pixel resolution\". It's \"freed from a pile of useless high-frequency noise\".", "timestamp": "1480603981"}, {"author": "David Chudzicki", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828342872122&reply_comment_id=828345062732", "anchor": "fb-828342872122_828345062732", "service": "fb", "text": "→ Paul, is Jeff's example comparison unfair? Top one definitely looks a lot better/easier to me too.", "timestamp": "1480604417"}, {"author": "Paul", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828342872122&reply_comment_id=828345257342", "anchor": "fb-828342872122_828345257342", "service": "fb", "text": "→ It's unfair because it's zoomed in. At the resolution of your monitor there would be no contest.", "timestamp": "1480604478"}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828342872122&reply_comment_id=828349987862", "anchor": "fb-828342872122_828349987862", "service": "fb", "text": "→ On my monitor at a normal viewing distance the antialiased one looks substantially worse", "timestamp": "1480607318"}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828342872122&reply_comment_id=828363875032", "anchor": "fb-828342872122_828363875032", "service": "fb", "text": "→ To reproduce this locally, since I don't think sending a picture would work:
* Get a Linux box with a standard (not hidpi) monitor
* Launch xterm with default settings
* Launch gnome terminal with default settings
* Change the gnome terminal to black and white
* Resize the gnome terminal down to xterm font size (6x13, but you can do it visually)
* Observe that the xterm is much more pleasant to look at", "timestamp": "1480611847"}, {"author": "Alex", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828342872122&reply_comment_id=828516424322", "anchor": "fb-828342872122_828516424322", "service": "fb", "text": "→ s/pleasant/hideous/", "timestamp": "1480693735"}, {"author": "Andrew", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828345576702", "anchor": "fb-828345576702", "service": "fb", "text": "I'd suggest replacing those uxterm geometry constants with variables. Maybe even a loop. This is the 20th century, man.", "timestamp": "1480604608"}, {"author": "Paul", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828345576702&reply_comment_id=828366404962", "anchor": "fb-828345576702_828366404962", "service": "fb", "text": "→ Certainly xterm dates from the 20th century, anyway...", "timestamp": "1480613335"}, {"author": "Ben", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828358016772", "anchor": "fb-828358016772", "service": "fb", "text": "No use for 'screen'? When I started using it to manage my virtual terminals, I never looked back", "timestamp": "1480609392"}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828358016772&reply_comment_id=828360571652", "anchor": "fb-828358016772_828360571652", "service": "fb", "text": "→ I use screen for single terminals, when I'm starting something long running, but I haven't seen an advantage to running it all the time", "timestamp": "1480610685"}, {"author": "Andrew", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828358016772&reply_comment_id=828360601592", "anchor": "fb-828358016772_828360601592", "service": "fb", "text": "→ screen is cool (or tmux whatever), and when you need it it's great (for sharing a tty, or for detach//attach) but I find it's usually overkill for my everyday hacking needs. also, sometimes the screen screens weren't quite enough like ttys, maybe because they ate too many control characters (I know they can be remapped), or for other subtle compatibility reasons (like the way i/o events worked? I forget what.)", "timestamp": "1480610686"}, {"author": "Jacob", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828358016772&reply_comment_id=828380501712", "anchor": "fb-828358016772_828380501712", "service": "fb", "text": "→ Tmux just has the one prefix key sequence (defaults to Ctrl+A, apparently most people switch it to Ctrl+B for historical reasons). I find it to be absolutely necessary when operating with only one screen, and very useful for splitting up a big terminal if using a big screen.", "timestamp": "1480617755"}, {"author": "Ben", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828358016772&reply_comment_id=828387712262", "anchor": "fb-828358016772_828387712262", "service": "fb", "text": "→ tmux looks nice, if I were starting today I'd probably choose it over screen - subdividing into panes looks well supported. The main advantage is terminal switching without having to move your eyes or mouse around. I also work on remote servers from a Windows desktop environment, so I can reattach from anywhere and be productive", "timestamp": "1480619586"}, {"author": "Lauren", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828358016772&reply_comment_id=828392023622", "anchor": "fb-828358016772_828392023622", "service": "fb", "text": "→ Jacob the opposite of those keybindings. default is c-b, I use c-a.", "timestamp": "1480621934"}, {"author": "Jeff", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828358460882", "anchor": "fb-828358460882", "service": "fb", "text": "have you seen this? https://github.com/tony/tmuxp", "timestamp": "1480609641"}, {"author": "Andrew", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828361958872", "anchor": "fb-828361958872", "service": "fb", "text": "my work flow might not be like other people's (i work on individual machines on a net, not in a cloud). i tend to ssh -X gnome terminals on various linux machines on my local network. I have a shell script that I can ask to pop up a term on my screen, and it hashes the name/IP address of the machine and always gives me a random dark color background (from a choice of 6 or 8), so machines come up with distinctive bgs (and white text). Makes it easier to keep track of which window is which.", "timestamp": "1480610990"}, {"author": "Michael", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828373800142", "anchor": "fb-828373800142", "service": "fb", "text": "There are some suggestions here that might give you better results: http://superuser.com/.../how-can-i-turn-off-font...", "timestamp": "1480615579"}, {"author": "Chris", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828378939842", "anchor": "fb-828378939842", "service": "fb", "text": "When I look at those, even zoomed in, I still prefer the antialiased one, even though I do dislike the color issues.", "timestamp": "1480617451"}, {"author": "Paul", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828378939842&reply_comment_id=828381684342", "anchor": "fb-828378939842_828381684342", "service": "fb", "text": "→ The colour issues are all to do with the zooming. On a real display it makes use of sub-pixel rendering to improve resolution.", "timestamp": "1480618366"}, {"author": "Chris", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828378939842&reply_comment_id=828521209732", "anchor": "fb-828378939842_828521209732", "service": "fb", "text": "→ No, I know.", "timestamp": "1480695997"}, {"author": "Andrew", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828411394802", "anchor": "fb-828411394802", "service": "fb", "text": "At work, I use Linux with X Window System. If I I want a new tty, I ask the window manager for one. If my window manager had to live inside my terminal, like if I was using a dumb terminal or putty or cu or a cell modem or something, then screen or tmux would be just the thing. (For me, screen. ) I can't use control-a because I've been using vi since forever, and control-a already has a job.
Re tmux, I really don't understand why it's better than screen. I tried it, and it seemed similar enough to be unnecessary. I don't want to start a debate, I'm just saying I tried it (under X), and it seemed like screen with different syntax. I suppose if screen-splitting makes the deal for you, then I can see it.", "timestamp": "1480631184"}, {"author": "John", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828517392382", "anchor": "fb-828517392382", "service": "fb", "text": "Doesn't anyone use Model 37 TTYs anymore?", "timestamp": "1480694403"}, {"author": "Andrew", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828517392382&reply_comment_id=828521434282", "anchor": "fb-828517392382_828521434282", "service": "fb", "text": "→ Ya baby, shift-in/shift-out black/red ribbon. etc, One of the few terminal models that early UNIX systems (v7 and before) had special code for. (A tty 37 was fancy then as teletypes go.) Back when you needed to clean and lube your i/o devices. Kids today don't know the fun they are missing. I know, John, you're a Multician, similar deal. I wouldn't be surprised if Linux still supports some Teletype device weirdness in the drivers, but I haven't checked.", "timestamp": "1480696173"}, {"author": "John", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828517392382&reply_comment_id=828528345432", "anchor": "fb-828517392382_828528345432", "service": "fb", "text": "→ I had a Model 37, connected via an extension to the GE switchboard in Tech Square with a 300 baud modem to dial into CTSS and Multics. (It sat right next to my harpsichord.)", "timestamp": "1480699137"}, {"author": "Andrew", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828517392382&reply_comment_id=828534133832", "anchor": "fb-828517392382_828534133832", "service": "fb", "text": "→ John I had various terminals at home during my stint at Bell Labs, with an FX line from my home to my office. (google for FX foreign exchange). I used TI silent 700, LSI ADM3A, HP2621, and finally, Ann Arbor Ambassador, and Jerq/Blit. These were the coolest terminals of their day, probably 10 years after your TTY 37. I think I used a bell 212A modem to connect.
(For the kids) Why the special FX line? Because they were billed by the month, instead of paying by the minute for phone time. Also, I assume an FX came out of a different budget pocket than dialup charges.
https://en.wikipedia.org/.../Foreign_exchange_service...", "timestamp": "1480700959"}, {"author": "Chris", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828521384382", "anchor": "fb-828521384382", "service": "fb", "text": "I do all my terminal work in screen for two reasons: I don't always know when I'm going to switch over to my laptop and I frequently run long compiles that I want to check from my laptop; and I don't want to have to switch between \"C-a\" and \"C-a a\" when I switch between screen sessions and non screen sessions.", "timestamp": "1480696140"}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828521384382&reply_comment_id=828845360132", "anchor": "fb-828521384382_828845360132", "service": "fb", "text": "→ I remapped screen from C-a to C-^, which dramatically improved my screen experience.
(Previously I would type \"C-a C-d C-d...\" to start deleting from the beginning of the line, which would have the surprising effect of detaching the screen session and then logging me out.)", "timestamp": "1480795901"}, {"author": "Jim", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828830944022", "anchor": "fb-828830944022", "service": "fb", "text": "That gnome-terminal screenshot is using sub-pixel rendering. It's taking advantage of the fact that the red, green, and blue components of each physical pixel aren't centered in quite the same place. It will look much better at its natural zoom level, on a monitor that has the subpixels arranged in the way it thinks they're arranged, than it does zoomed in.
If it looks bad at regular zoom, this might mean that your monitor's subpixels are arranged differently than X thinks they are.", "timestamp": "1480790229"}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/828341799272?comment_id=828830944022&reply_comment_id=828844002852", "anchor": "fb-828830944022_828844002852", "service": "fb", "text": "→ It doesn't look jagged on my monitor, just blurry. I think if it had the subpixel arrangement wrong it would look jagged?", "timestamp": "1480795419"}]}