{"items": [{"author": "Andrew", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921949264162", "anchor": "fb-921949264162", "service": "fb", "text": "If it were real, you wouldn't get a warning.  Why?  Because political and military brass would want to evac their own before the roads, airports, etc got clogged.<br><br>Think about Soviet behavior after Chernobyl (all the party bigwigs' families were brought out, while everyone else got no info for 2-3 days, and open-air parades went on as usual in Kyiv), and you'll get an idea of what would happen.<br><br>Yeah.  I'm cynical.", "timestamp": "1516394361"}, {"author": "Ari", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921949264162&reply_comment_id=921953974722", "anchor": "fb-921949264162_921953974722", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;Boston has relatively few military installations and top-level politicians.", "timestamp": "1516395957"}, {"author": "Manoli", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921949264162&reply_comment_id=921954603462", "anchor": "fb-921949264162_921954603462", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;Hard to imagine a nuclear war scenario where only one missile was fired. Seems more likely in a terrorist type ground level detonation, but then you\u2019d definitely have zero warning.", "timestamp": "1516396308"}, {"author": "Frederic", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921951210262", "anchor": "fb-921951210262", "service": "fb", "text": "Have you seen Miracle Mile?", "timestamp": "1516395127"}, {"author": "Chris", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921951210262&reply_comment_id=921952707262", "anchor": "fb-921951210262_921952707262", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;Oh God.", "timestamp": "1516395602"}, {"author": "Jeff&nbsp;Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921951210262&reply_comment_id=921953146382", "anchor": "fb-921951210262_921953146382", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;Nope. Looks pretty silly: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_Mile_(film)", "timestamp": "1516395713"}, {"author": "Frederic", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921951210262&reply_comment_id=921953485702", "anchor": "fb-921951210262_921953485702", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;20 years ago I thought it was great.", "timestamp": "1516395813"}, {"author": "Chris", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921951210262&reply_comment_id=921953705262", "anchor": "fb-921951210262_921953705262", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;I'm sure it was schlock night (or whatever we called it) in my time?", "timestamp": "1516395858"}, {"author": "Jacob", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921951210262&reply_comment_id=921954079512", "anchor": "fb-921951210262_921954079512", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;88% on Rotten Tomatoes", "timestamp": "1516396046"}, {"author": "opted out", "source_link": "#", "anchor": "unknown", "service": "unknown", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;this user has requested that their comments not be shown here", "timestamp": "1516396327"}, {"author": "Mark", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921951210262&reply_comment_id=921965012602", "anchor": "fb-921951210262_921965012602", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;It only counts if you play a game of nuclear war immediately after the credits roll.", "timestamp": "1516400729"}, {"author": "opted out", "source_link": "#", "anchor": "unknown", "service": "unknown", "text": "this user has requested that their comments not be shown here", "timestamp": "1516395385"}, {"author": "Andrew", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921952033612&reply_comment_id=921952123432", "anchor": "fb-921952033612_921952123432", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;Saturates your thyroid with iodine.  It keeps it from uptaking I-131, which is the radioactive version of iodine and a byproduct of fission of U-235 or Pu-238. <br><br>I-131 has a half-life of ~1 week, so it goes away in a few months.  Problems are radioactive Cesium and Strontium, which act like calcium and get bound to your bones.  Those don't go away all that fast.", "timestamp": "1516395444"}, {"author": "Andrew", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921952033612&reply_comment_id=921952672332", "anchor": "fb-921952033612_921952672332", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;This being said, nasty radioisotopes are actually a bigger problem in a reactor accident than from a nuclear bomb-- reactor has been doing fission for years, giving more time to create nasty isotopes.<br><br>(and contains tons of uranium vs a few pounds of the stuff)", "timestamp": "1516395581"}, {"author": "Jeff&nbsp;Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921952033612&reply_comment_id=921954887892", "anchor": "fb-921952033612_921954887892", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;The potassium iodide is something Julia got to keep for this kind of emergency because it's relatively cheap even though we're unlikely to need it.", "timestamp": "1516396435"}, {"author": "Jim", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921952033612&reply_comment_id=921954917832", "anchor": "fb-921952033612_921954917832", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;It's nutritionally important if you aren't getting iodine elsewhere (usually a multivitamin or iodized salt).", "timestamp": "1516396444"}, {"author": "Julia", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921952033612&reply_comment_id=921956225212", "anchor": "fb-921952033612_921956225212", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;@Jim This is a quantity you should not take every day. These are tablets intended to be taken once after exposure to high doses of radiation. https://emergency.cdc.gov/radiation/ki.asp", "timestamp": "1516397094"}, {"author": "Ari", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921954084502", "anchor": "fb-921954084502", "service": "fb", "text": "I've been thinking about this too. <br><br>I'm unsure if \"at home\" is really the right place to be. If the attack is an airburst over Boston or the river (likeliest possibility) it occurs to me it might be better to shelter someplace masked by the hills, and stay under cover for hours, not days.<br><br>I'm more worried about fires than about radiation, and basement of a wooden house in a dense place like Camberville seems risky.", "timestamp": "1516396053"}, {"author": "Jeff&nbsp;Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921954084502&reply_comment_id=921955107452", "anchor": "fb-921954084502_921955107452", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;Depends how much warning we might have. I was thinking about a case where there would be no time to go anywhere.<br><br>Even if there was time, I'd expect transportation to be very difficult, especially with kids and no car.", "timestamp": "1516396531"}, {"author": "Jeff&nbsp;Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921954084502&reply_comment_id=921955391882", "anchor": "fb-921954084502_921955391882", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;Possibly the school up the street would make sense; they may have a designated fallout shelter.", "timestamp": "1516396564"}, {"author": "Ari", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921954084502&reply_comment_id=921956205252", "anchor": "fb-921954084502_921956205252", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;Jeff&nbsp;Kaufman I wasn't thinking to go far, but even 15 minutes would be enough to get Spring Hill between me and the epicenter. (And, with any luck, between me and the actual blast).", "timestamp": "1516397071"}, {"author": "Jeff&nbsp;Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921954084502&reply_comment_id=921962248142", "anchor": "fb-921954084502_921962248142", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;I wonder how much trying to get against the basement wall closest to the blast would help? For our part of town that's probably the southeast corner.", "timestamp": "1516399569"}, {"author": "Dave", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921955556552", "anchor": "fb-921955556552", "service": "fb", "text": "I would do nothing and hope the initial blast grants me a quick death rather than dying slowly from radiation or whatnot. But I also live far closer to likely targets than you, so survival likelihood is pretty low.", "timestamp": "1516396692"}, {"author": "Danner", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921955556552&reply_comment_id=921957273112", "anchor": "fb-921955556552_921957273112", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;Statistically you won't be lucky enough to die a quick death, in terms of affected area. Yes, you do get an upgrade for major city, but that's only if you're lucky.", "timestamp": "1516397646"}, {"author": "Dave", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921955556552&reply_comment_id=921960057532", "anchor": "fb-921955556552_921960057532", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;Huh? I'm within the blast radius of every map I've seen. Do you mean the missiles are likely to miss?", "timestamp": "1516398583"}, {"author": "Danner", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921955556552&reply_comment_id=921960297052", "anchor": "fb-921955556552_921960297052", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;ah, I see, for Washington D.C. <br><br>Hm, what a good reason to start distributed government more. <br><br>https://www.vox.com/.../13881712/move-government-to-midwest", "timestamp": "1516398763"}, {"author": "Andrew", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921955556552&reply_comment_id=921963176282", "anchor": "fb-921955556552_921963176282", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;Danner -- if the missiles are going up, where various gov't agencies are would be the least of our problems.  Stupid to move them to the middle of nowhere.  If there's that kind of war, we've already lost.", "timestamp": "1516399920"}, {"author": "Alex", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921958071512", "anchor": "fb-921958071512", "service": "fb", "text": "We think about this sometimes. Assuming we survived a nuclear detonation, there'd be no way to get very far in NYC in the 15 mins between the blast and the beginning of the worst fallout, even by bike and especially assuming a panicked population. NYC is a pretty bad place to be for something like this", "timestamp": "1516397857"}, {"author": "Andrew", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921958071512&reply_comment_id=921962752132", "anchor": "fb-921958071512_921962752132", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;NYC and DC might actually be least likely to be hit assuming a rational actor.  Why?  \"Someone needs to be left to turn it off.\"  NYC has the UN, DC has POTUS.", "timestamp": "1516399818"}, {"author": "Alex", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921958071512&reply_comment_id=921976399782", "anchor": "fb-921958071512_921976399782", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;Also, all the likely threats these days seem to be from North Korea, so there's that", "timestamp": "1516405398"}, {"author": "Andrew", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921958071512&reply_comment_id=921977088402", "anchor": "fb-921958071512_921977088402", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;Alex -- the good thing is that the Norkies don't have good aim.  They'll probably blow up an uninhabited island off the coast of Nova Scotia instead of Boston.", "timestamp": "1516405720"}, {"author": "Danner", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921958740172", "anchor": "fb-921958740172", "service": "fb", "text": "Hm. Good question. Camping gear is in the basement, along with lots of tape and airtight window/house wrap. Food would only last a week or so at the moment, most of it is in the kitchen.<br><br>We're on the wrong side of a bedrock hill, aimed towards boston, it would be far better to be a quarter mile away, on the other side of the hill.<br><br>Use this to see how you'd fare. http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/", "timestamp": "1516397899"}, {"author": "Jeff&nbsp;Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921963585462", "anchor": "fb-921963585462", "service": "fb", "text": "It's possible going to the subway station would be best. Porter is very deep, but Davis would be good too. I could get there with the kids in about 10min if needed I think.<br><br>I don't think I'd try it outside of the T's operating hours in case we got there and it was locked.", "timestamp": "1516400097"}, {"author": "Ezra", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921963585462&reply_comment_id=921966429762", "anchor": "fb-921963585462_921966429762", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;Bolt cutters? I think the bigger problem would be water supply. At least at home you can drink out of the water heater and you are less likely to have to fight other people off.", "timestamp": "1516401448"}, {"author": "Jeff&nbsp;Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921963585462&reply_comment_id=921968360892", "anchor": "fb-921963585462_921968360892", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;Depends how important it is to protect against the direct effects of the bomb vs follow-up ones I guess?", "timestamp": "1516402098"}, {"author": "Daniel", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921963585462&reply_comment_id=921983031492", "anchor": "fb-921963585462_921983031492", "service": "fb", "text": "&rarr;&nbsp;Ugh, then you'd have to live in Porter Square station for two weeks.  I'm not sure life is worth that kind of torture", "timestamp": "1516408182"}, {"author": "Tee", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/921941005712?comment_id=921970351902", "anchor": "fb-921970351902", "service": "fb", "text": "16 minutes ago seems a bit late...", "timestamp": "1516403141"}, {"author": "Michael", "source_link": "https://plus.google.com/110347619670230195222", "anchor": "gp-1516705811470", "service": "gp", "text": "A lot has changed now that the most likely threat comes from North Korea and not Russia or China.  (Please note: \"most likely\", not \"worst\".)  North Korea's arsenal is still small, inaccurate, and low-yielding, which makes initial survival a lot more likely, and the requirement to deal with two weeks of fallout much more pressing.  For where you live, your neighborhood isn't even central enough to be deliberately targeted, and your city isn't even important enough to be targeted yet (neither is mine).  On the other hand, we are both near enough, and directly downwind of, more likely targets.", "timestamp": 1516705811}, {"author": "Jeff&nbsp;Kaufman", "source_link": "https://plus.google.com/103013777355236494008", "anchor": "gp-1516717673032", "service": "gp", "text": "@MN\n I'm outside Boston (Somerville) which more likely city are you thinking I'm directly downwind of?", "timestamp": 1516717673}, {"author": "Michael", "source_link": "https://plus.google.com/110347619670230195222", "anchor": "gp-1516724171844", "service": "gp", "text": "@Jeff&nbsp;Kaufman\n New York.  On the timescale of nuclear falllout, that's certainly close enough and downwind enough.", "timestamp": 1516724171}, {"author": "Jeff&nbsp;Kaufman", "source_link": "https://plus.google.com/103013777355236494008", "anchor": "gp-1516724313065", "service": "gp", "text": "I see, and Philly being downwind from DC?", "timestamp": 1516724313}, {"author": "Michael", "source_link": "https://plus.google.com/110347619670230195222", "anchor": "gp-1516735490465", "service": "gp", "text": "Precisely.", "timestamp": 1516735490}]}