{"items": [{"author": "Danner", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/924465446712?comment_id=924468211172", "anchor": "fb-924468211172", "service": "fb", "text": "Oh look, just the article I need right now, having been asked about using my gear/mastering an EP ;-)", "timestamp": "1517412203"}, {"author": "Angela", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/924465446712?comment_id=924468211172&reply_comment_id=924489523462", "anchor": "fb-924468211172_924489523462", "service": "fb", "text": "→ It's almost like we're all friends with the same people! ;)", "timestamp": "1517420303"}, {"author": "Danner", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/924465446712?comment_id=924469259072", "anchor": "fb-924469259072", "service": "fb", "text": "I recall turning off the furnace and refrigerator for one recording session. Acoustic guitar recordings pick up everything.", "timestamp": "1517412602"}, {"author": "Emma", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/924465446712?comment_id=924496474532", "anchor": "fb-924496474532", "service": "fb", "text": "Having had the experience of recording with close-micing and with ambient-micing, I would say that the one HUGE benefit of the close-micing is being able to fix/trade out one person's blooper without losing the whole track. I guess that's if you're interested in doing editing, but it made me play better knowing that I was not going to ruin it for everyone necessarily.", "timestamp": "1517422891"}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/924465446712?comment_id=924496474532&reply_comment_id=924504214022", "anchor": "fb-924496474532_924504214022", "service": "fb", "text": "→ I'm not sure if I'm using the right words for what I'm thinking of. For a bunch of people playing in one room there's a continuum from \"one mic that just picks everything up\" to \"each instrument has a mic as targeted as possible to pick up just that instrument, and really just the sound of the particular piece of that instrument that the mic is near\". The farther along you are on this continuum the more freedom you have later to make changes to just one instrument, but for many instruments you lose some realism. The sound of a cello, say, is the sound the whole instrument makes, and there isn't a single point on the cello where you can take the sound from just there and get something that sounds as good as the whole instrument. (In my opinion, though it does depend what you're going for.)

With directional mics I think you can pull back the mic to about a foot away (from something like a guitar) and still get an isolated enough sound that you can swap out a section of one track on one take with the same section on another take. But I might be wrong here, and you might need to have the mic closer to do that.", "timestamp": "1517425674"}, {"author": "Cecile", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/924465446712?comment_id=924497048382", "anchor": "fb-924497048382", "service": "fb", "text": "So for recording purposes, micing an amp is a bad idea?", "timestamp": "1517423124"}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/924465446712?comment_id=924497048382&reply_comment_id=924497756962", "anchor": "fb-924497048382_924497756962", "service": "fb", "text": "→ Depends what you're doing, maybe or maybe not. What instrument? Is the way the amp modifies the instrument's sound something you want to capture?", "timestamp": "1517423523"}, {"author": "Cecile", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/924465446712?comment_id=924497048382&reply_comment_id=924498056362", "anchor": "fb-924497048382_924498056362", "service": "fb", "text": "→ Strummy things - it's the sound we're used to in rehearsal", "timestamp": "1517423742"}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/924465446712?comment_id=924497048382&reply_comment_id=924498869732", "anchor": "fb-924497048382_924498869732", "service": "fb", "text": "→ If the sound you want is the sound the instrument makes through the amp, mic the amp. If you prefer the sound the instrument makes acoustically, try to capture that with a mic.", "timestamp": "1517424046"}, {"author": "Bob", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/924465446712?comment_id=924497761952", "anchor": "fb-924497761952", "service": "fb", "text": "i have 3 (for starters) comments: mics, room, and multichannel. (1) i call mics the engineer's cocaine: hideously expensive and you can never have enough. trying to record with whatever mics you have lying about is unlikely to produce good results. beg, borrow, or steal good mics. (2) i need to emphasize the point you briefly skipped over about \"how the room sounds\"; this is critical. the first recording i brought into a mastering lab, the engineer told me everything about the room i recorded in -- the size, that it was L-shaped, EVERYTHING -- even though i close-mic'd all the instruments. (3) multichannel is *usually* a good idea for bands who aren't full-time professionals. but it is certainly not the only way to go, nor is it the best way to go. many of the greatest recordings in history were made direct to stereo, and it is still arguably the gold standard in many fields where \"people have ears\", as we say. one super example in the folk domain is Freyda Epstein's Midnight at Cabell Hall, which still stands out to me as the best-engineered folk recording of all time, as well as stunning music. maybe Mark would have some comments on it, as he played some on it and also wrote 2 tracks, including possibly the most beautiful song in the universe, Today's the Day. at any rate, beyond all these claims, i personally have recorded several hundred cd's straight to 2-track, and a reasonable number of dance music cd's which were mostly (not all) multichannel. if you have a musician or band that is actually rehearsed and ready to go, recording direct to stereo can be a superior product (depends also on the type of music). there is less noise, the musicians interact Totally differently, and don't neglect the fact that the way sound mixes in air on the way to a stereo mic (the way our Ears hear it!) is utterly different from multiple channels mixed electronically.

i'll stop here; believe it or not, that's not even the tip of the iceberg.", "timestamp": "1517423530"}, {"author": "Bob", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/924465446712?comment_id=924497761952&reply_comment_id=924518415562", "anchor": "fb-924497761952_924518415562", "service": "fb", "text": "→ nb: re: \"good\" and \"never enough\": there is no such thing as A good mic; depends on the purpose, so don't ask someone to borrow a \"good mic\": a $3500 mic could be absolute junk when used wrong. or, the reverse example: the guitar parts for Jumpin' Jack Flash were recorded on Keith's busted-up walkman. for that purpose, it was the right mic (and more to the point, captured the Moment, which is even more important). for your fiddle tracks, though, i recommend a good ribbon mic. ;)", "timestamp": "1517431334"}, {"author": "Mark", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/924465446712?comment_id=924497761952&reply_comment_id=924579064022", "anchor": "fb-924497761952_924579064022", "service": "fb", "text": "→ Wow Bob that\u2019s a treat to read! Just made my decade! Perhaps I\u2019ll post some time about that experience. I miss dear Freyda.", "timestamp": "1517452790"}, {"author": "Gordon", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/924465446712?comment_id=924497761952&reply_comment_id=924603749552", "anchor": "fb-924497761952_924603749552", "service": "fb", "text": "→ \"and don't neglect the fact that the way sound mixes in air on the way to a stereo mic (the way our Ears hear it!) is utterly different from multiple channels mixed electronically\"

I've always wondered about this. How noticeable is it, really? Do sound engineering courses cover this? Are there concrete examples?

Also, has anyone implemented an electronic mixing function that replicates the way sounds mix in air? Presumably you'd have to provide it details on the environment, position and angle of instruments, etc.", "timestamp": "1517465067"}]}