{"items": [{"author": "David", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629945442162?comment_id=629948381272", "anchor": "fb-629948381272", "service": "fb", "text": "Great find! How did you come across Wesley?", "timestamp": "1380635411"}, {"author": "Theresa", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629945442162?comment_id=629953476062", "anchor": "fb-629953476062", "service": "fb", "text": "May I share? I love the philosophy Wesley expressed here.", "timestamp": "1380639090"}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629945442162?comment_id=629953760492", "anchor": "fb-629953760492", "service": "fb", "text": "@Theresa: certainly!", "timestamp": "1380639229"}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629945442162?comment_id=629953915182", "anchor": "fb-629953915182", "service": "fb", "text": "@David: I'd heard some people quoting \"earn more, save more, give more\" and tried to look into it before, but hadn't been able to find it before. Then I saw another reference to Wesley's view of money and looked harder this time.", "timestamp": "1380639312"}, {"author": "Adam", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629945442162?comment_id=629955606792", "anchor": "fb-629955606792", "service": "fb", "text": "Look at the early American Puritans, it's likely many of them will give you similar quotes. http://www.thirstytheologian.com/.../the_puritans_and...", "timestamp": "1380640495"}, {"author": "Theresa", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629945442162?comment_id=629955696612", "anchor": "fb-629955696612", "service": "fb", "text": "In the truest sense, money is an exchange of energy. Give generously of your energy! works pretty well.", "timestamp": "1380640537"}, {"author": "Pablo", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629945442162?comment_id=630006654492", "anchor": "fb-630006654492", "service": "fb", "text": "\"Earn more, save more, give more\" is a very good slogan. Nearly all of the occurrences seem to be from the subtitle of a book or the tagline of a blog.
http://goo.gl/4hRyFW
In which context did you come across that phrase, Jeff?", "timestamp": "1380661663"}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629945442162?comment_id=630010421942", "anchor": "fb-630010421942", "service": "fb", "text": "@Pablo: Actually, I was misremembering; it was really \"earn all you can, give all you can, save all you can\". But \"earn more, save more, give more\" is more succinct and less 1700s.", "timestamp": "1380663829"}, {"author": "William", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629945442162?comment_id=630017547662", "anchor": "fb-630017547662", "service": "fb", "text": "Jeff you just gained 10 \"legend points\" - this is awesome", "timestamp": "1380667435"}, {"author": "Kali", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629945442162?comment_id=630021010722", "anchor": "fb-630021010722", "service": "fb", "text": "I really enjoyed this one. Thanks!", "timestamp": "1380669453"}, {"author": "Scott", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629945442162?comment_id=630022083572", "anchor": "fb-630022083572", "service": "fb", "text": "\"I am convinced, from many experiments, I could not study, to any degree of perfection, either mathematics, arithmetic, or algebra, without being a Deist, if not an Atheist.\"
What a strange thought. I have to admit I don't understand why he would believe this, especially if he thought atheism was false.", "timestamp": "1380670210"}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629945442162?comment_id=630123275782", "anchor": "fb-630123275782", "service": "fb", "text": "@Scott: \"I don't understand why he would believe this, especially if he thought atheism was false\"
He does think it's possible for some other people to safely do this, following with \"And yet others may study them all their lives without sustaining any inconvenience.\" So it's not as simple as \"everyone I've seen study math has become a Deist or Atheist.\"
It might be \"everyone like me who has studied math has become ...\" but I think it's probably \"the times I've started down that path I found myself having religious doubts, so I decided not to go that way in the future.\"", "timestamp": "1380728089"}, {"author": "Pablo", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629945442162?comment_id=790262460572", "anchor": "fb-790262460572", "service": "fb", "text": "Earlier today I was reading Ron Chernow's biography of John D. Rockefeller (New York: Random House, 1998) and came across the following passage (p. 55):
'As to why God had singled out John D. Rockefeller for such spectacular bounty, Rockefeller always adverted to his own adherence to the doctrine of stewardship\u2014the notion of the wealthy man as a mere instrument of God, a temporary trustee of his money, who devoted it to good causes. \u201cIt has seemed as if I was favored and got increase because the Lord knew that I was going to turn around and give it back.\u201d Rockefeller said this in his late seventies, and one wonders whether the equation between moneymaking and money giving only entered his mind later. Yet even as a teenager, he took palpable pleasure in distributing money for charitable purposes, and he insisted that from an early date he discerned the intimate spiritual link between earning and dispensing money. \u201cI remember clearly when the financial plan\u2014if I may call it so\u2014 of my life was formed. It was out in Ohio, under the ministration of a dear old minister, who preached, \u2018Get money: get it honestly and then give it wisely.\u2019 I wrote that down in a little book.\u201d This echoed John Wesley\u2019s dictum, \u201cIf those who \u2018gain all they can\u2019 and \u2018save all they can,\u2019 will likewise \u2018give all they can,\u2019 then the more they will grow in grace.\u201d'", "timestamp": "1464965327"}, {"author": "Pablo", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/629945442162?comment_id=790263418652", "anchor": "fb-790263418652", "service": "fb", "text": "A quick Google search for '\"earning to give\" rockefeller' resulted in this:
\"As a Christian, I find MacAskill\u2019s utilitarian approach to \u201cmaking a difference\u201d problematic. A Christian understanding of vocation relates to one\u2019s sense of Divine calling or belief that one was made to operate in a specific field. For many, the financial considerations only tell half the story. It is about the job. Doing something that fits. Doing something that is both worthwhile and a match for one\u2019s skill set. The bottom-line analysis breaks down because MacAskill does not consider the intrinsic value of the work for the worker, account for the potential that the individual could bring something new and innovative to the task (rather than assuming that anybody could do the job), or assess the harm that one potential does in the high-wage earning position before giving one\u2019s money away. It is reminiscent of John D. Rockefeller\u2019s \u201crobber baron\u201d mentality of making as much money as possible (as ruthlessly as possible) and being generous in philanthropy. Rockefeller did an extraordinary amount of good (including funding Spelman College), but his form of monopolistic capitalism still wrecks havoc in our liberal democracy.\"
https://jermainemmcdonald.wordpress.com/.../earning-to.../", "timestamp": "1464965987"}]}