{"items": [{"author": "Chris", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625046449782", "anchor": "fb-625046449782", "service": "fb", "text": "Do all pawns get their starting rank, move-two bonus? Just the front row? None of them?", "timestamp": "1377018505"}, {"author": "Eitan", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625046873932", "anchor": "fb-625046873932", "service": "fb", "text": "From just a couple minutes looking at it, looks to me like white has a successful attack option down the leftmost column, followed by moving right on the bottom row.", "timestamp": "1377018929"}, {"author": "Danner", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625047083512", "anchor": "fb-625047083512", "service": "fb", "text": "Right, White kills off the left column, sacs a couple of queens doing so, then black is going to try to advance pawns to queen them or check the king, but I think white can defend and add a couple of moves towards the king from the back row.
The rows of pawns getting the jump first move definitely makes it more complicated.", "timestamp": "1377019091"}, {"author": "Kevin", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625047532612", "anchor": "fb-625047532612", "service": "fb", "text": "Someone come play me on facebook chess when ur interested", "timestamp": "1377019431"}, {"author": "Neil", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625048405862", "anchor": "fb-625048405862", "service": "fb", "text": "My bet is on black as well. I'm inclined to plug it into a chess engine, but I don't have one installed at the moment.", "timestamp": "1377020116"}, {"author": "George", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625048455762", "anchor": "fb-625048455762", "service": "fb", "text": "My chess engine unfortunately only allows legal positions.", "timestamp": "1377020144"}, {"author": "Sparr", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625050945772", "anchor": "fb-625050945772", "service": "fb", "text": "I think this is a win for white, even if every pawn is afforded a two space first move.", "timestamp": "1377021556"}, {"author": "Todd", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625052283092", "anchor": "fb-625052283092", "service": "fb", "text": "I'm going with black, but I really want to play it out.", "timestamp": "1377022314"}, {"author": "Danner", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625053400852", "anchor": "fb-625053400852", "service": "fb", "text": "Leading me to this page was very dangerous. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_variant", "timestamp": "1377022931"}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625053615422", "anchor": "fb-625053615422", "service": "fb", "text": "@Danner: which brings up the similar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunsany%27s_chess", "timestamp": "1377023141"}, {"author": "Justin", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625056320002", "anchor": "fb-625056320002", "service": "fb", "text": "since we're posting chess variants: http://chessbomb.com/", "timestamp": "1377024664"}, {"author": "Josh", "source_link": "https://plus.google.com/118273920476267337216", "anchor": "gp-1377026581117", "service": "gp", "text": "Huh, I wonder if there's a chess server that lets you set up your own boards, where you could try it.", "timestamp": 1377026581}, {"author": "Ross", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625064294022", "anchor": "fb-625064294022", "service": "fb", "text": "I don't think you could effectively assault to the back row of the blacks and force a mate before the black could successfully get to the final white row and upgrade to queens. I'd put money on a black victory in this one. But not a huge sum.", "timestamp": "1377026787"}, {"author": "Kevin", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625070606372", "anchor": "fb-625070606372", "service": "fb", "text": "By far my favorite chess variant; hard to find partners for this one:
DRILL CHESS. Set up a chess board and a pylon (a post, a tree, a shoe, or whatever) at some distance from each other, perhaps 40m for this example, creating an 80m circuit from the board, around the pylon, and back to the board. White starts the game at the board, while black starts at the pylon.
Upon making her first move, white signals verbally, and the chase begins. Black races towards the board, and white races towards the pylon. From this point on, whenever a player arrives at the board, his prerogative is to move as quickly as possible. Having moved, she will race the circuit as quickly as possible. Should a player arrive at the board before the other has moved or overtake him mid-circuit, the latter loses his turn.
Those are the basics; a few other details exist to facilitate otherwise normal chess play. If necessary, handicapping is accomplished by giving the two players different circuit lengths; different pylons may be used by each player or a second pylon may be added which is part of one player's circuit but not the other's.
A simpler variation from the perspective of making rules to eliminate perverse incentives is to play that overtaking your opponent or catching them at the board causes you to win the match outright. This variation works well with much longer circuits, 200m or more.
The game combines brute athleticism with logical challenge, forcing players to confront the intellectualism of chess while suffering from oxygen deprivation. Building on this dynamic, other creative challenges may be layered, such as using a small board to make it easier to confuse pieces (bishops and pawns, kings and queens) which happens more and more as player fatigue increases.
It's devilishly fun, but I rarely find someone who is as excited about it as I am. I plug Drill Chess whenever I can, and I may even have plugged it on Jeff's wall before. I hope someone sees this and is inspired!", "timestamp": "1377031231"}, {"author": "Jim", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625071589402", "anchor": "fb-625071589402", "service": "fb", "text": "I tried it out (in a text editor, playing both sides). White wins decisively. Even if all pawns (not just those in the front rank) are allowed to double-advance on their first move, and even if black goes first.", "timestamp": "1377031801"}, {"author": "Pat", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625073465642", "anchor": "fb-625073465642", "service": "fb", "text": "Especially when one of black's pawns queens.", "timestamp": "1377032960"}, {"author": "Vladimir", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625076045472", "anchor": "fb-625076045472", "service": "fb", "text": "Kevin, maybe an even better combination would be chess+boxing+alcohol :-)", "timestamp": "1377034337"}, {"author": "Kevin", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625099433602", "anchor": "fb-625099433602", "service": "fb", "text": "Vladimir, will you design a set of rules for drunken chess boxing???
Wait, I think this is familiar, alternating a round of boxing with a round of chess... I'm sure I've seen that on youtube, but without the alcohol. You can win by either checkmate or knockout. Surely, alcohol can only improve the contest.", "timestamp": "1377047303"}, {"author": "Kevin", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625099468532", "anchor": "fb-625099468532", "service": "fb", "text": "Brian might be interested.", "timestamp": "1377047344"}, {"author": "Brian", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625099668132", "anchor": "fb-625099668132", "service": "fb", "text": "OMG you're going to have to be more specific. I'm fascinated", "timestamp": "1377047593"}, {"author": "Alex", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625101429602", "anchor": "fb-625101429602", "service": "fb", "text": "Just played it out. Even with pawns being able to move two squares, white wins. Though I'd be interested to see how it changes if black moved first.", "timestamp": "1377048905"}, {"author": "Igor", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625104503442", "anchor": "fb-625104503442", "service": "fb", "text": "black to win", "timestamp": "1377050512"}, {"author": "John", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625108779872", "anchor": "fb-625108779872", "service": "fb", "text": "I don't think black wants any pawns to advance by 2. They should always move just one ahead, making sure that they always have another pawn diagonally behind. This makes a \"squeeze\" play that slowly fills white's spaces with pawns. If any white queen captures a pawn, the queen is instantly captured by one of the pawns diagonally behind it. after 7 such captures, it's just the white king against a mob of advancing pawns. As soon as 3 pawns (with diagonal backups) get next to the white king, it's all over.", "timestamp": "1377052357"}, {"author": "Jay", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625117662072", "anchor": "fb-625117662072", "service": "fb", "text": "White wins with at least one Q to spare. Great puzzle, I hadnt seen it before.", "timestamp": "1377057620"}, {"author": "Paul", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625133799732", "anchor": "fb-625133799732", "service": "fb", "text": "This is a version of Bobby Fischer's random 960 chess game. http://www.chessgames.com/perl/fischerandom", "timestamp": "1377071568"}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625139398512", "anchor": "fb-625139398512", "service": "fb", "text": "I'm convinced: white wins, even if all of black's pawns get an initial choice between one and two space moves.", "timestamp": "1377085376"}, {"author": "Chris", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/625046265152?comment_id=625139772762", "anchor": "fb-625139772762", "service": "fb", "text": "John Sure you do: your first move would be a single step, but in order to move forward more quickly you'd want to move the pawn immediately adjacent to that one two to form a defended diagonal.", "timestamp": "1377085812"}, {"author": "Jenny", "source_link": "https://plus.google.com/111419027123995253579", "anchor": "gp-1377205838807", "service": "gp", "text": "Can black pawns move two spaces on the first move?", "timestamp": 1377205838}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://plus.google.com/103013777355236494008", "anchor": "gp-1377223299229", "service": "gp", "text": "@Jenny\n\u00a0If they can't then I think white wins quickly. \u00a0Except I think white wins anyway.", "timestamp": 1377223299}, {"author": "John", "source_link": "https://plus.google.com/117361110923472794003", "anchor": "gp-1383755054356", "service": "gp", "text": "How does white ever win? \u00a0Black can advance pawns always keeping them protected by at least one pawn, so the best White can do is to sacrifice a queen for two pawns, and he only has 7 queens. \u00a0Maybe if he is careful, he can pick enough holes with a 6 sacrifices that the last queen can pick off pawns as they move, but without trying to play it it seems unlikely.\n
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\nFrom the comments, I assume something like:\n
\n1. Qdxh5 gxh5\n
\n2. Qxh5 e4\n
\n3. Qgh1 f4\n
\n4. Qxh6 gxh6\n
\n5. Qxh6 e3\n
\n6. Qfh1 f5\n
\n7. Qxh7 gxh7\n
\n8. Qxh7\n
\n
\nBut white is already having a problem getting the other queens over there? \u00a0You said you were convinced White wins, can you give a winning line?", "timestamp": 1383755054}]}