{"items": [{"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/757428535022?comment_id=757428589912", "anchor": "fb-757428589912", "service": "fb", "text": "Ruthie", "timestamp": "1447807758"}, {"author": "Ruthie", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/757428535022?comment_id=757428749592", "anchor": "fb-757428749592", "service": "fb", "text": "Nice! Any idea of the gender ratio of the community at large?", "timestamp": "1447807882"}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/757428535022?comment_id=757428749592&reply_comment_id=757429048992", "anchor": "fb-757428749592_757429048992", "service": "fb", "text": "→ It feels like it varies a lot between places, and even in one place it's hard to evaluate. It's not like everyone just dances M-F and we can count the number of people left out of the partnering.", "timestamp": "1447808065"}, {"author": "Yoyo", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/757428535022?comment_id=757428749592&reply_comment_id=763090443512", "anchor": "fb-757428749592_763090443512", "service": "fb", "text": "→ Ruthie I think it's possible to get an estimate from attendance sheets, like those at BACDS dances. But then you can't get a sense for who arrives late or leaves early, or sits out more, etc.", "timestamp": "1450891497"}, {"author": "Ruthie", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/757428535022?comment_id=757428749592&reply_comment_id=763105453432", "anchor": "fb-757428749592_763105453432", "service": "fb", "text": "→ I've daydreamed about sitting in the back of a dance with a notebook and recording all the partnering behavior (who dances with whom, who sits out, etc). I think this might make people uncomfortable, though...", "timestamp": "1450894755"}, {"author": "Laura", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/757428535022?comment_id=757428749592&reply_comment_id=763133681862", "anchor": "fb-757428749592_763133681862", "service": "fb", "text": "→ Do it.", "timestamp": "1450909860"}, {"author": "Ross", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/757428535022?comment_id=757433070932", "anchor": "fb-757433070932", "service": "fb", "text": "Definitely parsed this as \"Against callers having gender\".", "timestamp": "1447810290"}, {"author": "Nix", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/757428535022?comment_id=757451409182", "anchor": "fb-757451409182", "service": "fb", "text": "Note: if calling gigs were randomly assigned to a caller in the sample, this result would be barely significant (p = .047) [1]. The events aren't truly independant, however, as some callers are more popular. Thus the gender of the most-popular callers is disproportionally important, which makes such discrepancies more likely. In other words, the overrepresentation of gigs for women is probably not significant.
The underrepresentation of women as callers may well be significant, but I do not have the data to figure that out.
[1] http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/...", "timestamp": "1447818220"}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/757428535022?comment_id=757451409182&reply_comment_id=757518240252", "anchor": "fb-757451409182_757518240252", "service": "fb", "text": "→ The most popular callers in the sample:
16\tNils Fredland
15\tCis Hinkle
14\tLisa Greenleaf
14\tSeth Tepfer
12\tKathy Anderson
That's three women and two men, but if one of those were a male caller instead of female that would be enough to bring the percentage from 47% down to 42%, while if one more were female then it would go up to 52%. Very sensitive to individuals.
On the other hand, there might be some sort of balancing force here that makes this not a coincidence, where dance weekends like to book one male caller and one female?", "timestamp": "1447866249"}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/757428535022?comment_id=757451409182&reply_comment_id=757519827072", "anchor": "fb-757451409182_757519827072", "service": "fb", "text": "→ \"dance weekends like to book one male caller and one female?\"
Looks like it! Of the weekends booking exactly two callers, I see:
ww: 10
wm 37
mm: 10
If instead each of the \"which caller to book\" decision had been drawing from this pool of 57 male bookings and 57 female bookings the most likely outcome would be:
ww: 14
wm: 28
mm: 14
So organizers are preferring to have female/male callers. Don't know how to make a p-value for this though.", "timestamp": "1447867581"}, {"author": "Nix", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/757428535022?comment_id=757451409182&reply_comment_id=757523464782", "anchor": "fb-757451409182_757523464782", "service": "fb", "text": "→ To find a p-value we can use the binomial distribution (again), where success is a wm booking. The chance of this should be 50% if the bookings are independent. Given this distribution, the chance of 37 or more wm bookings in a sample of 57 is only 0.027. [1]
In other words, wm callings are significantly higher than expected when drawing from this 57 booking sample (p = 0.027).
[1] http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/...", "timestamp": "1447870581"}, {"author": "Nix", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/757428535022?comment_id=757451409182&reply_comment_id=757525615472", "anchor": "fb-757451409182_757525615472", "service": "fb", "text": "→ I was wondering if it made any sense to use the 57-57 sample of gigs as opposed to the full sample. But it doesn't make any real difference to the p-value.", "timestamp": "1447872468"}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/757428535022?comment_id=757451409182&reply_comment_id=757566144252", "anchor": "fb-757451409182_757566144252", "service": "fb", "text": "→ Added an update to the post summarizing this discussion.", "timestamp": "1447893738"}, {"author": "Laura", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/757428535022?comment_id=757564238072", "anchor": "fb-757564238072", "service": "fb", "text": "What a nerdy discussion (I would expect nothing less!). I should get back into calling. And dancing. Sigh.", "timestamp": "1447892677"}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/757428535022?comment_id=763080792852", "anchor": "fb-763080792852", "service": "fb", "text": "I ran the numbers for BIDA:
By person:
* female: 22 (40%)
* male: 33 (60%)
By gigs:
* female: 69 (49%)
* male: 72 (51%)", "timestamp": "1450889473"}, {"author": "Mark", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/757428535022?comment_id=763104540262", "anchor": "fb-763104540262", "service": "fb", "text": "Our queercontra.org camp organizers recently did a review of band members by gender and are making a conscious effort to hiring equity.", "timestamp": "1450894001"}, {"author": "Michael", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/757428535022?comment_id=763188801402", "anchor": "fb-763188801402", "service": "fb", "text": "I think that now that the glass ceiling gender-barrier has been broken (quite some time ago), it's not necessary to actively gender balance in booking callers, because women are just as good at calling as men, and there are no other barriers. That's just an opinion; I hope I'm right, and it doesn't hurt to keep watching.", "timestamp": "1450916963"}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/757428535022?comment_id=763188801402&reply_comment_id=763202968012", "anchor": "fb-763188801402_763202968012", "service": "fb", "text": "→ BIDA doesn't actively gender balance callers, and I don't belive we ever have. Ending up with a 49-51 split seems to have just happened.", "timestamp": "1450923643"}, {"author": "Michael", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/757428535022?comment_id=763188801402&reply_comment_id=763214604692", "anchor": "fb-763188801402_763214604692", "service": "fb", "text": "→ I should clarify that I meant the gender-barrier in calling, not across all professions. I didn't think that BIDA was gender-balancing; I was responding in part to Mark's earlier comment.", "timestamp": "1450928245"}, {"author": "Jeff Kaufman", "source_link": "https://www.facebook.com/jefftk/posts/757428535022?comment_id=907627265562", "anchor": "fb-907627265562", "service": "fb", "text": "Update, now that I have more data: https://www.jefftk.com/p/contra-caller-gender-ii", "timestamp": "1509199301"}]}